User talk:Imzadi1979

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You've been around since the beginning, but I thought it would be appropriate to test the welcome template's new state-switching ability on you. :P

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Category:Lists of Scenic Byways

Half the content is not in a nationwide Scenic Byways/similar category, so removing this category as redundant while not filling a category that it is apparently redundant to is neither helpful to me in explaining why you've reverted my edits as being redundant, nor the wiki in that stuff reverts to being poorly categorised.

The category name I chose for this category of lists is consistent with most of the other names in Category:Lists of roads in the United States, which has 27 states covered by 'Lists of roads in' subcategories and a few national 'Lists of <type of roads>' subcategories. It looks to me to be the de facto way we're categorising lists of roads, even though there's still quite a lot of exceptions.

Currently categorisation is a mess left over from the other place and needs sorting. I'm fine with a different naming system - as long as we're both consistent and thorough about it. I'll put something on The Interchange about it. Si404 (talk) 04:34, 16 October 2023 (EDT)

A few thoughts. One, the term "scenic byways" shouldn't be capitalized when used as a generic term. That's a minor quibble though. Two, not all state byway schemes are "scenic byways". In Michigan, some of the Pure Michigan Byways are scenic, some are historic and some are recreational, so there isn't a 1:1 relationship between the term "scenic byway" and a state classification. Third, I don't want to see us overcategorizing pages. To that end, I'm not sure we need a category specifically for "lists of X" when we have categories on the X. We run the risk of making things too complicated in the category trees. Imzadi 1979  07:30, 16 October 2023 (EDT)
To be honest. I liked the changes si404 made by adding categories to the list of scenic highways in x pages. The value I see in the change is, while all the Pure Michigan byways are tagged in that category, there is no way to navigate from the scenic byways in Michigan to, say, the scenic byways in Colorado using categories. Currently that leap from Michigan's system to Colorado's system is made via the navbox Template:Scenic Byways. One could argue that we don't need both the navbox and the categories, and that's fine. But I don't see the harm in having both either. I agree over categorization is a concern, and if it is decided this is a frivolous use of categories so be it. However, IMHO there's far more frivolous categories on far more pages than this.Dave (talk) 12:12, 16 October 2023 (EDT)